Johann Martin Seubertsiver b. 1674? d. 16 luglio 1739

Da Rodovid IT.

Eventi

1674? Nascita: Mannheim, Germany

figlio(a) nascita: ♂ Conradt? /SEIBERT Siver [Siver]

figlio(a) nascita: ♂ John? /SEIBERT Siver [Siver]

figlio(a) nascita: ♂ Michael? /SEIBERT Siver [Siver]

Occupazione: Vine Dresser

Matrimonio: ♀ Anna Maria [?]

29 agosto 1704 figlio(a) nascita: Lambsheim, Ger., ♀ Maria Elizabetha /SEIBERT Siver [Siver] b. 29 agosto 1704

1707? figlio(a) nascita: Lambsheim, Ger., ♂ Johann Jacob /SEIBERT Siver [Siver] b. 1707?

14 dicembre 1715 figlio(a) nascita: Schoharie, NY, ♂ George Adam /SEIBERT Siver [Siver] b. 14 dicembre 1715

15 novembre 1721 figlio(a) nascita: ♂ Johann Willem/Wilheim /SEIBERT/SIVER Seebert [Seebert] b. 15 novembre 1721 d. 1 settembre 1777

1732? figlio(a) nascita: Palatine, Montgomery County, New York, ♀ Anna Maria /SEIBERT Siver [Siver] b. 1732? d. 15 ottobre 1805

16 luglio 1739 Morte: Neuheesbert: Stone Arabia Patent

Note

Lambsheim, Bayern (Pfalz)

http://www.palproject.org/ny/1710third.htm

1710, Third List Ship: Fame Captain: Walter Houxton From: London Arrival: 14 Jun 1710 This reconstructed passenger list is based on the first part (75 names) of the 1 July 1710 subsistence list along with any who appear to have been part of their households. Johann Adolph Arthopoeus, a passenger listed below, was the listmaster on the ship Fame which arrived 14 June 1710 indicating most of these passengers were probably on that ship. Hunter # Name, Age Place of Origin (Town, Province) 10+/ under 10 Remarks (USA, Spelling Variations, Occupation, Relationships, etc.) 716 Johann Martin Seubert, 36 Anna Maria Maria Elisabetha, 5 Johann Jacob, 2 Lambsheim, Bayern (Pfalz) 2-2 1st arrivals in London.

Seibert, Johann Martin wife Anna Marie & 3 children New Hayesbury

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v4/1700v4/simmendinger17100100M_Z.html viewed April 20, 2002 Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild Simmendinger Register M-Z Simmendinger Register A-L Germany via England to New York January, 1710 This register was originally prepared by Ulrich Simmendinger after his return to Germany from the colonies, where he had been part of the Palatine migration for seven years. The names given are all who were living in 14 early New York settlements at the time of his departure in 1717. It is assumed most of these were passengers of a fleet of 10 ships (names of ships unknown), 3000 people, leaving England January 1710. History of the Register and Ulrich Simmendinger Ulrich Simmendinger was born in 1672 in the city of Reutlingen which is some twenty miles south of Stuttgart in the Province of Wurtemberg, Germany. His occupation is unknown. He married Anna Maria Schnabel of Cannstatt, a town near Stuttgart. They had two children. Simmendinger departed for England with his wife and children on July 31, 1709 being attracted to America by the promises of William Penn's Quaker agents, who sought colonists for the newly established commonwealth of Pennsylvania. In 1710 the Queen, getting pressure from the parties in England, felt it necessary to restrict emigration from Germany. A group of Germans, including the Simmendinger family landed in England after waiting several weeks for permission to cross the Channel. It is here that the two Simmendiger children died. It is assumed that he and his wife were among the 3,000 Palatines who sailed from London in a fleet of ten ships in January, 1710. On this voyage some 480 passengers died and one vessel was wrecked on the American coast. The voyage took six months. After reaching New York they were quarantined for five months on Nutten (now Governor's) Island where 250 more succumbed to ship's fever and 84 orphaned children were apprenticed. The names appearing here may also be found in the Ration Lists of Governor Hunter, in the Colonial Census of 1710, and at least two in the List of Apprenticed Children, 1710-1714. Original found in the New York Public Library in 1926, now public record. Photostat copies can be had by addressing the New York Library. It consists of 24 pages, printed in German. Transcribed by Sheila Tate a member of the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild 30 October 2001

From: ksiver@AFCLaw.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:18:35 -0500 To: skncr@cox.net

Shirley, go to www.jean.simoneau.com/siver.htm for a very extensive family tree of Johann. Seibert became Siver apparently in the third generation, with Martin Siver, son of George Adam Seibert, who was son of Johann. I don't see a Martin born in 1801, but there is one born in 1806, son of Jacob Siver. Did you find the ship list with Johann on it? It's the "1710 Third List", Hunter # 716. Also, Johann was a vine dresser by occupation (Lambsheim being in a prime wine growing area), and he had a brother named Conrad. Good luck! Keith Siver

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